Thursday, November 28, 2013

Hoegger Supply November Newsletter

November Newsletter

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Our office will be closed on Thursday, but will reopen bright and early Friday morning. Enjoy a sneak peak at our lower shipping rates for 2014. Also, order a 2014 Hoegger Goat Calendar and receive a $10.00 gift certificate good through January 15, 2014. Remember you can always shop online anytime. Have a happy and blessed holiday.  

Chickens & Poultry

Are pasture weeds healthy as a mineral source for my goats?

There have been several blog articles published recently at Hoegger Farmyard that deal with the problem of copper (Cu) deficiencies in goats. As mentioned, this deficiency can be either primary, or secondary. The former is due to low Cu content of forage whereas the latter reflects... Read More »

Fiber Goats

Your LGD and storms

Many of us have Livestock Guardian dogs. They are like most any other dog. They have senses they use for hearing, smelling, and feeling. These same senses alert them to danger or fearful things. Many dogs including Livestock Guardian Dogs ‘LGD’s’ can be fearful of thunderstorms and lightening. Read More »

Chickens & Poultry

Tools of the trade

There are so many things as farmers that we don’t know we’ll need. Never dream we’ll need and all of a sudden… we have sparked an interest. A light in us has kindled for something and we then go on a journey to achieve that thing. Read More »

Fiber Goats

How to tell the body condition and weight of your dairy goat

Body condition and weight are important measurements for assessing the health of your goats. Knowing your goat’s approximate weight is necessary for proper dosing of medications and supplements. Body condition is a good way to tell if you are on the right track... Read More »

Thursday, November 21, 2013

NORCO: Successful goat breeders don’t kid around

NORCO: Successful goat breeders don’t kid around

Some of the 25 or so pygmy goats bred at the Amber Waves ranch in Norco.
Some of the 25 or so pygmy goats bred at the Amber Waves ranch in Norco.
Jim and Debbie Hosley bid farewell to some of their pygmy goats the other day. Several were packed up from their Norco ranch and shipped off to New York, Illinois and Idaho. They’re preparing to send another shipment of 25 to their new home in Kuwait; the shipping alone will cost $17,000.
Tori Spelling and Megan Fox have purchased some, and so has a crown prince from the United Arab Emirates. Last year a Saudi Arabian princess was disappointed when she stopped by but was turned down because she was short on cash and the Hosleys at the time didn’t accept credit cards. They do now.
Over the years, the Hosleys’ goats have won hundreds of championships and awards and have earned a reputation for their breeding.
In other words, if you want a pygmy, the Hosleys are your goat-to couple.
Jim and Debbie Hosley with one of their alpacas at their ranch in Norco.
Jim and Debbie Hosley with one of their alpacas at their ranch in Norco.
Nineteen years ago, when Jim and Debbie married, he was a service tech for Avery Labels and had two horses. With the “dowry,” he said, came her eight horses and 25 goats. They all moved to his house on almost an acre and began their breeding business, Amber Waves Pygmy Goats.
They’ve since added silkie chickens, blue slate turkeys and sebastopol geese to their product line. Also on the property are rescued pigs, alpacas and an emu.
So you can go to the San Diego Zoo or to the Hosleys’ farms. Actually, they do allow visitors when arrangements are made in advance. Children have a terrific time with the goats, which is not surprising since kids like kids. Call Jim at (951) 233-4231 to make a reservation.
The pygmies are sold by the Hosleys as pets or for breeding. A female goat and a breeding buck can cost $600 or more while a fixed male starts at $375. Jim, 73, said he’ll keep raising them as long as he can sell them.
The gestation period is about five months, and breeding should wait until the goats are at least a year old.
Goats do make great pets, Jim said, and he knows of one couple whose goat sleeps with them. (Yes, it’s house-trained.) They’re comparable in many ways to a larger dog, weighing 40 to 60 pounds and having a lifespan of 10 to 15 years. They need the company of their own kind, so one goat won’t be enough.
The goats are really cute, and of course they’re welcome in Norco. But those of us in Corona are still waiting for the city council to give its blessing to chickens. I suggest that we let our elected officials know that pygmies should be included in the ordinance.
That will get their goat.
Peter Fischetti can be reached at 951-272-1530 or Like him on Facebook at

Wednesday, November 20, 2013

What about hay?


What About Hay?

By Dr. Rick Machen 
Associate Professor & Extension Livestock Specialist,
Texas Agricultural Extension Service, Uvalde 

Ruminants (goats, cattle, sheep, deer, antelope, elk, bison, etc.) are, by design, grazing animals. Their rumen, the largest gastrointestinal compartment, is an environment wherein bacteria anaerobically ferment (digest) forages. This unique digestive process converts solar energy captured by plants into higher quality, more nutrient dense foods like milk and meat.

Compared to harvest by a grazing animal, hay production is an expensive process, involving fossil fuel, machinery and man-hours. Haying also involves significant soil nutrient relocation when compared to grazing. Protein (nitrogen) and minerals harvested and hauled off the soil of a hay meadow or field must be replaced if optimal hay production is to be maintained. Grazing, on the other hand, is part of a natural cycle. A portion of the nitrogen and minerals from the consumed forage is returned to the soil with urine and feces.

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Roughage and why goats like it

Goat on a hill
Photo provided by Yvonne Zweede-Tucker.

Roughage and why goats like it
by Yvonne Zweede-Tucker 
An excerpt from Yvonne's book—The Meat Goat Handbook, Raising Goats for Food, Profit, and Fun 

Many meat goat producers have watched in amazement as their goats walk right past the beautiful, dark green hay available to them in the fall and winter and start happily devouring dry, brown grasses or weeds. 

There actually is a scientific reason that goats prefer dry forage, and it has to do with slowly digesting carbohydrates (something called lignin) and dietary fiber. Wait! Before you eyes glaze over, there is an easier way to understand why goats eat what they eat.

When I first acquired goats, my mentors told me that goats are "roughage busters." Roughage is much easier to remember than slowly digesting fiber or lignin, isn't it? You will see your goats actively seeking out roughage as part of their diet when adult goats leave the beautiful grass in the pasture to munch twigs or weeds, or a kid, just a few days old, nibbles on a piece of straw or dried grass as it starts eating solid foods, and thereby gives its rumen something to start developing digestive enzymes for. During a cold Montana winter, our goats will happily eat straw in addition to grass-alfalfa hay because as their bodies digest the roughage in straw, they get lots of body heat from the digestion. Alfalfa hay has much more protein in it than straw, but alfalfa is digested much more quickly by the goat and does not yield as much warmth (body heat) for as long a time for the goat. It's like throwing paper on a fire, rather than a log.

Tuesday, November 19, 2013

Pygmy Goats Arrive In their new home in New York 11/18, 2013

Preparing Your Goats for the Winter Months Ahead

November 2013

Preparing Your Goats for the Winter Months Ahead 

Preparing Your Goats for the Winter Months Ahead 

Autumn is a good time to make sure everything is in tiptop shape for the cold weather that's just around the corner. The preparations you make now can have a long-term impact on the health and comfort of your goats, so here are a few fall tips:

Even hardy animals like goats need a warm, dry place to get in out of the cold. Now is a good time to make sure your shelter can protect your goats from cold winds, rain and snow as the temperatures drop. 

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Saturday, November 16, 2013

WAste No More

Waste No More
It’s a smelly reality you’ll eventually have to deal with when keeping animals on your farm: manure. Instead of groaning about the dirty chore of manure management, change your perspective—and build your soil—by turning animal waste into valuable fertilizer. We have the need-to-know stats on each manure type that will make management a breeze. More »

Friday, November 15, 2013

Pipestone Sheep Newsletter

In This Issue
Colostrum, Milk, and Life
Straight Talk
Q & A with Dr. Kennedy
Milk Pricing
Contact Us
Volume 33
Issue 10     

     Let's talk about milk replacer. Five years ago we had enough so we decided to custom formulate are own product. I am not a nutritionist, but relying on people that have expertise in the field we determined there were two critical aspects.
     First, it should be skim milk based and we preferred acidification as well. Our product has enjoyed instant success and customer satisfaction. 6,400 lambs can't bewrong.
G.F. Kennedy, DVM
Pipestone Vet Clinic
Colostrum and the Amount of Milk Needed to Sustain Life 
Dr. G.F. Kennedy  
     I can't over emphasize the need for colostrum not only to provide immunity, but also the amount to be fed to meet energy requirements in the first 24 hours after birth. David Mellor, a veterinary physiologist with Massey University in New Zealand, discusses meeting the colostrum needs of new born lambs. His work shows that an eleven pound lamb born outside needed 35 ounces of milk the first 18 hours of life.
     My recommendations are 50 ounces for an average size lamb the first 24 hours. These figures should give producers an idea of how much milk needs to be fed to meet energy requirements. Eight ounces of high quality colostrum may be adequate for immunity. Know the approximate weight of your lambs and don't over extend the stomach by force feeding. Keep in mind the average producer
tends to under feed. The first feeding for an average sized lamb that has not nursed should be a minimum of eight ounces and could be 12 depending on the size of the lamb. 
     Let's talk about colostrum sources.  Ewe or goat colostrum would be best, but it is unlikely to have enough when needed. We sell a product called NurseMate that consists of dried cow colostrum and lamb milk replacer that is a solid product backed by research. The other way for sheep would be to obtain colostrum from a dairy and freeze ahead of time. I like to add lamb and kid milk replacer powder to cow colostrum to increase energy and bring it closer to the real thing. This works well. When thawing colostrum products, do not use a microwave, use warm water. Johne's disease of cattle may be transmitted through milk to goats but not to sheep. Johne's in sheep is different than the Johne's in cattle.
Straight Talk 
Dr. G.F. Kennedy  
     As I write this article, we are looking forward to going to Louisville. We will have 24 Katahdins we will exhibit as well as a Rambouillet ram for Scott. If one has time to attend Louisville it is a good time. We are currently working on the milk replacer roll out, and we have made some minor adjustments in  formula and will be coming with a new bag. If you feed any number of lambs, I would certainly consider  the Lac-Tek Milk  Machine. There seems to be constant questions on worming and this issue contains the printed version of my blog post on wormers.
   At the risk of being viewed politically, I am going to comment on a happening lately. The moose population has been decreasing in several states where they reside and the so called scientists studying the situation say there is a lot of possibilities, but the one common thread is global warming. I would suggest there is another common thread and that is the release and or protection of wolves in these same areas. Wolves have decimated the Elk and Deer populations through out those
same areas. Mountain Lions and Bears can be problems as well.
     When I was a kid growing up in Iowa, I can remember seeing Deer for the first time. The population obviously exploded in the Midwest with only cars and hunters for predators. Elk were a prairie resider and civilization drove them to the high country. Now we introduced wolves to eliminate that for habitat as well. The wolves are now over populating and are dying of mange. As they become sickened, the balance of the pack kills them or they freeze to death in the winter. Maybe the so called scientists should take a second look.
     We have a new product called FOXLIGHTS, a night predator deterrent developed in Australia. I have no idea how well they work, but the Army bought 30 to keep the locals out of their camp in Afghanistan. When I was a kid, I can remember my dad using flares on the perimeters of turkeys in the alfalfa to keep fox away. Probably worth a try and all you have to feed them is a six volt battery.
    Don't get skimmed by whey.
     Let's talk about milk replacer. Five years ago we had enough so we decided to custom formulate are own product. I am not a nutritionist, but relying on people that have expertise in the field we
determined there were two critical aspects. First, it should be skim milk based and we preferred acidification as well. Our product has enjoyed instant success and customer satisfaction. 6,400 lambs can't be wrong.
     Now come the competitors with products that are cheaper priced. By leaving out the costly ingredients that are used for human consumption, you can lower the price on a twenty five pound bag by three to four dollars. We have less margin than that so we chose to compete with quality and performance, not price. I refuse to sacrifice animal welfare for cost.
     It is pretty simple.  If you use skim milk at 1.44 versus dried whey concentrate at .62 per pound, it does make a difference.  Dairy calves are started on higher cost ingredients and then the formula is cheapened up at two weeks.  Calves are fed for eight weeks while sheep should be weaned at 30 days. Time doesn't permit changing the formula once started as they are fed full feed free choice.
     I never back away from a fight when the welfare of animals is involved.  Not only is it the right thing to do but a well-cared for healthy animal is the most profitable.
     It all revolves around the difference in protein and lactose content.  The majority of the protein content of skim milk powder is casein. Otherwise known as slow protein, casein is slowly released after ingestion. 
Whey protein is a fast protein
which is quickly assimilated; the casein has been removed through the cheese making process.  The feeding of whey can result in intestinal  hemorrhage syndrome caused by rapid fermentation of lactose and high levels of gas production, abomasal bloat. 

Q & A with Dr. Kennedy 
     Q:  I am having a barber pole worm problem in my Katahdin ewes. I typically just deworm based on anemia and condition but there have been far more this year and I am getting resistance and some deaths. I also have September lambs on some of them who look pretty bad and have loose stool. I was thinking of early weaning. What would be your suggestion to treat the ewes and lambs? 
     A: I get criticized for not supporting FAMACHA,  but I fail to understand the practice of allowing animals to become clinically sick from parasitism when there are other protective procedures available. I look at it as an animal welfare issue as well. I would use Dectomax and worm all the sheep and place in a dry lot or switch pastures. I would wean the September lambs. They need to be at least 5 weeks old and 8 would be better. They may have worms, but I would suggest coccidia is their problem and you may want to drench those lambs with sulfa and leave them on a bit longer.  Be sure to worm the lambs as well.

: The Noromectin is injected for the sheep? I only ask, as my vet had me previously use Dectomax injectable administered orally.     
A: There is no reason to use Dectomax orally. It should be injected. Noromectin can be injected as well.

     Q:  I understand we are not located in a particularly low-selenium area, but have gotten into the practice of using a shot of BoSe as a sort of "hail Mary" pass when a sick sheep seems near checking out. Of course this hasn't a high success rate. My wife, who is excellent help and an RN, gets notions. One of her notions is that BoSe is often deadly poison. We most recently gave a couple of weak and failing lambs the tiny dose of 1/4 - 1/2 cc. The lambs died soon after. Ergo, she is convinced it was the BoSe that speeded their demise. Can you settle our disagreement about how toxic or (I maintain) non -toxic normal therapeutic doses of BoSe are, even if given when deficiency is not the underlying problem.
     A: Twenty years ago, I killed one of my own sheep by giving a second injection of BoSe. I am not a fan of the product for several reasons. The vitamin E level is not therapeutic and oral consumption thru salt and feed is safer and more cost effective.

Dr. G.F. Kennedy 
     Most common question I get this time of year is what is safe for pregnant ewes? All of the most effective wormers are, Dectomax,IvermectinCydectin and ProhibitValbazen isn't, and I don't recommend any of the other white wormers. I have given up chasing tape worms.  Eventually, sheep develop immunity and they are gone anyway with little if any economic loss. 
     Anytime you are working pregnant ewes, care must be taken. I don't recommend any procedures, vaccinations, worming, sorting, working with dogs, what so ever in the first 30 days of pregnancy.
     Pour ons don't work and shouldn't be used as drenches.
     The FAMACHA thing, I might have missed the spelling, I cant find any reason to support. why would you allow an animal to suffer from parasitism when there are adequate drugs and management programs to prevent clinical parasitism. Not only is it bad husbandry, its an animal welfare issue as well. It appears to me when an intellectual groups get their hold on a process or condition that is poorly defined and complicated they can promote programs without substance or with limited value for ever. OPP is another.
Milk Pricing   
Don't be skimmed by whey!
     We are fast approaching that time of year when we will be using milk replacer. We will be transitioning to a new bag and will be offering the same skim milk based product that we have enjoyed success with in the past, Shepherd's Choice Lamb and Kid Milk Replacer.
     Until February 1st, 2014 we will be pricing any amount of SHEPHERDS CHOICE MILK at $41.95 for a 25 lb bag and $82.95 50 for a 50 lb bag. In ton lots, a pallet or more, the price is $40.95 and $80.90. This is the cash price FOB Pipestone. Four percent surcharge on credit card purchase or charged to a current open credit account. After February 1st, 2014 the product will be priced as market conditions dictate.
     General pricing: Sheep and goat producers that have accounts exceeding $1000 annually are eligible for reduced pricing on the most commonly used products and milk sales qualify. On major purchases a coupon can be requested and issued for 4% discount at time of purchase for cash or check. Those eligible for reduced pricing will continue to receive a reduced price on SHEPHERD'S CHOICE MILK after
February 1st, 2014.
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In closing, I would like to share this with you ...
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened."   
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Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Hoegger's 2014 Goat Calendar

Hoegger's 2014 Goat Calendar

Click here to order   $9.95 for one or $15.95 for two.

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Carrie, Sherry, Dawn, Pamela, Tabitha, Onycha, Britney,
Barbara and Samantha who are the winners of this years photo contest.  

13 full-color images capture life on the farm. The intelligence
and playfulness of goats shines through. Enjoy an entire year
of these cud-chewing "living lawn mowers" and their friends.
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Sheep, goat conference slated Nov. 16, Ava, Mo.

Sheep, goat conference slated Nov. 16, Ava, Mo.Farm Talk
Parsons, Kansas — The “South Central Sheep and Goat Conference” is planned for 9 a.m. to 3 p.m., Saturday, Nov. 16 at Ava Victory Academy, 1005 NW 12th ...
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November 12, 2013

Sheep, goat conference slated Nov. 16, Ava, Mo.

Parsons, Kansas — The “South Central Sheep and Goat Conference” is planned for 9 a.m. to 3 p.m., Saturday, Nov. 16 at Ava Victory Academy, 1005 NW 12th Street in Ava, Mo. Lunch will be served and afternoon sessions will be at the Douglas County Fairgrounds, Highway 5, Ava.

"If you want to raise sheep or goats for meat or milk, you can learn how to raise them successfully at this conference," said Dr. Jodie Pennington, a small ruminant educator with Lincoln University Extension headquartered in Neosho. “The conference will provide the basic information participants would need to work with sheep and goats, including hands-on training in the afternoon.”

Topics for the conference include herd health management including foot rot, internal parasite control, sheep and goat nutrition including pasture and forage management, and co-grazing of small ruminants and cattle.

After lunch, the conference will include an information-exchange panel after lunch of sheep and goat producers who will answer questions from the audience. Hands-on practices will include deworming, FAMACHA, vaccinations, foot trimming, body condition scoring, and selection of breeding stock.

The other speakers for the day are Mark Kennedy, Natural Resource Conservation Service and Dr. Charlotte Clifford-Rathert from Lincoln University Extension in Jefferson City. Clifford-Rathert is a small ruminant veterinarian who routinely works with goat diseases and internal parasites.

For those who pre-register before Nov. 15 at noon, the cost is $15 person. Simply mail your registration information to the Douglas County Extension Center, PO Box 668, Ava, MO 65608. Registration is $20 at the door the day of the event.

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